Wednesday, April 2, 2008

Victory Outreach Abuse...

BE CAREFUL of Victory Outreach. Before you join in on their "Vision" understand that you will be stripped of all the visions God has shown you in your life. You will be made to let go of all free thinking and the visions God has given to you. You will lose who you are and what you stand for. You will be criticised, cursed and made to serve, serve, serve. Even at the expense of your own family. Please do not get conned into this system of spiritual abuse. It is a cult. A cult is : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work ... Sony Arganzoni, the great leader is mentioned more in the messages than Jesus Christ himself. They tell their people "We have a great inheritance because we come from the mother church in La Puente". I'm sorry, but last time I checked, our inheritance comes from Jesus Christ anf the price he paid on the cross for our sins. He predestined our lives before we were even born. Psalms 139:16... 16 your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.


1 John 4
Test the Spirits 1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

Ephesians 4:14-20
14Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. 16From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

PLEASE RESPOND WITH YOUR STORIES IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN A VICTIM OF SPIRITUAL ABUSE THROUGH VICTORY OUTREACH!

193 comments:

Marcy said...
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christine said...

This message is for Marcy. Hi I went to a Victory Outreach Church Program to get off drugs. Altough I am not thrilled about the church as a whole, It did work to get me off drugs and it was the only thing that did work. I just dont think God wants that baby in an unsafe situation and Im sure it will work out for the best. No church is perfect its not a cult alot of people think they have extreme ways of doing things extensive prayer etc but that is only in the homes and it is because the people in the homes were usually so far out there on drugs and being so disobedient they try to show them some sort of discipline because they are used to none. Just pray that herself and the baby get out of there in Gods time so they can have a regular life. It is not a cult just because someone posts that online dosent make it true Its not the greatest church but it does what it promises alot of the time. I hope everything works out for you and the baby and everyone involved =)

sandywvelasquez said...

victory outreach is a great church what other church goes out to the streets and takes those drug atticts, and gang members haw...we have a problem with addicts and gang members on our streets, but i dont see no one else doing a darn thing obout it go...VICTORY OUTREACH u bunch of selfish people god bless you

nicky30 said...

Totally agree, Victory Outreach came to Manchester first in 2000. It,s male dominated and the women are second class citizens serving the elders, who happen all to be male. They work you like dogs for very little food and you are also deprived of sleep. They are christian fanatics and twist the bible teachings. they want ten per cent of your money even when you are in the men's home unemployed or on long term sick you are expected to give them your benefits. From Manchester I stayed in Amsterdam, where I was not allowed to visit my family.In America they had me working 12 hour days in the heat with a bottle of water and no food. In the end I had to get the sheriff to get me out of their and back to the UK as they had confiscated my passport. they prey on vulnerable people and brain wash you for free labour ad extortion.It abuses you emotionally,

american disgruntled said...

June 20. 2011 I know all about them and the same stories that point to abuse mental and spiritual and more..., Yes it is a "Sick assemballies of God based Church " I was involved with 2003-2006 I never in my life met or dealt with such scum bags of a sorry cult outfit..., I hate them and Iam writing a book/blogs on them and exspose them !!! Http://blkopsusa.typepad.com/my blog/ Joe "Diamond " McD-

american disgruntled said...

they are sick !

raymondadam said...

They use mind control techniques to control the weak-minded. Recovery homes are very authoritarian, and the directors are very abusive, working their slaves on 16 hour labor jobs, fixing the pastors homes, or church, etc.

World traveler said...

Hey raymond adam your exactly right and all the stories true and all the same M.O correct ? Well soon I want the Whole USA and the rest of the world to know and yet we have another agenda too "Our Country " !!

Rene Astorga said...

umm... sorry, but before you go saying anything as an informative stance... at least inform yourself of proper spelling so that you don't look like you don't really do your research.

blesssings.

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Anonymous said...

i was once in Victory Outreach. i was a punk rocker trying to get off of drugs, so i decided to go to one of their recover homes. their home leaders tried to make me claim General Relief, but being only 18yrs old, c'mon. it wouldn't make any sense if i claimed it so young. phone calls to loved ones were no permitted. they would tell you to use a payphone, but they also make you give them your money. they work you to death for 14 hours a day and expect you to get up at 4:30AM. i would get back from working around 7pm and be asleep at 10pm. after 2 weeks there i decided to book it, which was aterrible and great decision. i was mocked, ridiculed, called names, and looked at as a traitor or something. 8 years later i got a wife, 2 kids, a home, a car, 2 dogs, and good income. it seemed The Army helped me (though i hate it to death) more than this church while getting paid really good. now they pay me a good monthly salary just to get a bachelors degree. i am a firm believer in Jesus Christ, but this church was very self glorifying and occult-like. the memories were not good ones.


Joseph, 4 years US Army Reserves
1 tour of duty

slomoshn said...
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slomoshn said...

I was at a Victory Outreach house in Ontario, California in 2008. I was there for three months. I admitted myself because I knew that I needed help. However, they grossly misrepresented themselves and their accommodations. If they are not a cult, they are as close to one as I have ever been.

I was there for three months, before I left walking down the street with nothing. Thank God that the true God directed me to a Salvation Army. The next day, I was at an ARC (adult rehabilitation center). I've been clean four years as of March 2012, and I'm pursuing a master's degree at the University of Wisconsin.

All of the abuses and injustices perpetrated upon me and others at Victory Outreach are too numerous to list here. So I will only mention one particularly un-Christian incident that flies in the face of drug recovery practices.

Each morning all of the guys are sent out on jobs with a sack lunch consisting of one peanut butter sandwich and a 25 cents bag of chips (no drinks). On this particular day, I worked alone at this job (menial work). I began the day at 6am, and my workday was over at 4pm. Victory Outreach left me there until 11pm that night, standing outside of the business waiting to be picked up, hungry, penniless, drug-addicted, and in an unfamiliar area. It was the true power of God that prevented me from chasing my addiction that night. No real recovery program would leave an addict alone for that amount of time, if they left them alone at all.

The living arrangements are similar to what is seen in the movie, Midnight Express. They accept anyone because it is about cheap labor, that's all.

I got to know some of the guys I was there with, and actually felt close to a few--the ones who were not fresh out of prison or gang members threatening to murder me. The house director was a big redneck with lightning bolts on his neck, who was obviously a racist. This is the Victory Outreach I know. Come to think about it, it doesn't sound like a cult. It sounds like a prison camp.

p.s. To Ryan and Marcel:

I hope you brothers made it

Rick

nicole braverman said...

I am in the Victory Outreach recovery home myself, and it is not a cult, or a prison camp or anything like that. Every church has its issues, nothing is perfect but the basic values on what they do are right with the word of God. Pastor Sonny and Sister Julie are very anointed individuals that have started an amazing ministry thanks to Gods vision for them. I thank God that they answered the call upon their lives because if they didn't I would still be a heroin addict out running the streets doing whatever I needed to get my next fix. Maybe your experience with your directors or church was not the best, but do not lump all VO's in one lump. Most everyone is in the church thanks to the recovery homes, so yes they are all ex-addicts, gang members, convicts or just lost individuals. Our mission in life is to do Gods work by reaching individuals that need help in recovering their lives. I pray that God softens your heart and opens your eyes, and you stop blaspheming against the anointed ones, because God does not look kindly upon those who do that.

Cassie Davis said...

lived at a VO (san Jose CA) for a while and I believe it is a cult!! When you are told when to pray and for how long every day, when you are deprived food for weeks at a time and not allowed sleep for days. Something is wrong!! I have acute asthma and was told it was a sin to take my meds because it meant I didn't believe God could heal me. We were made to sell play tickets (to a very stupid play) every day for weeks. We would be dropped off at grocery stores in the morning and not picked up until very late and many times not given any food. One night I was sexually assaulted by a man in the parking lot during one of those nights, and when I reported to it the VO leader, I was told "well God protects his children, so if you were attacked it must be your fault" I would recommend you stay as far away from VO as possible!

Susan Mora said...

Sorry to hear that Cassey I hope you got medical attention and the therapy that you will need. What led me to this blog is that I'm doing research on Victory Outreach and the corruption and scnadals that take place within thier churches. The reason I am doing this is because my 16 year old daughter was taken advantage of sexually by her Youth Leader that is 28 years old married with a daughter that is 12 years old. Of course this sick individual is now in jail. He is only facing
6 1/2 yrs for what he has done to my daughter. This is so pathetic because I'm positive that he has done this before I can feel it within my soul. The question is will anyone speak up, according to the authorities they can not freely question the congregation or inform them for that matter is up to the Pastor to take this action. I'm not confident that this will take place so I'm wondering how often this occurs within these churches. I knew as soon as I found out that this couldn't of been the first time he has done this, but of course because members of thier congregation are so brainwashed and manipulated the parents may not speak up. This sick pervert took my daughters purity and innocence. She will have to not only deal with the emotional healing from this abuse but the tool that it is going to take on her spiritual life is going to be even worst. I'm looking for other victims or famalies of victims to see just how common this is within thier organization. Please email me if you can help me in any way
s_mora75@icloud.com

Odulia Uribe said...

my fiancé is a member in the men's home recovery her where I live in the city of Pomona, Ca. One night I found myself in miserable pain, I called the director and requested to have him brought to my house to care for my children while I went to the hospital. Or they could have come and helped me. I have no family near so this was my last resort. they gave me the run around and because I was in so much pain I hung up. The following morning I dropped my kids off and I rushed to the hospital. I had a bad kidney infection that spread to my intestines and stomach. I was advised to stay at the hospital for treatment but couldn't because I have no one to care for my kids. The following day I went to Friday services. Before I could enter the church, I was advised by the director that I can not talk, sit, write or have any visits with my fiancé due to the fact that I disrespected the director when I hung up. I took out my hospital paperwork and showed him that I was in a seriouse medical emergency, but they took me hanging up the phone personal and punished him and I. I accepted this two week punishment but I was recently advised I will absolutely have no contact with him for 3 months. I still attend Sunday Service but receive smerks and unwelcoming bodily language. I feel ostercized when I;m there. Rudy, my fiancé and I know each other for over 35 years, he would never act this cold towards me if not being brainwashed and or threatened. I feel as though I;ve lost him and they have permanently ingrained it in hid mind that I am toxic toward him. I don't know what to do. I keep writing to him but don't know if he is even receiving the mail or they are intercepting them(which is a federal crime). I have no way of reaching him and when he's in church they completely block his view from me and direct me where I can sit. In my eyes this is not Christ like, but abusive spirituality.

Karmen Evon said...

There is no such thing as a perfect church or perfect people. Just like my pastor says, he himself has done things just like us and for anyone to condemn Victory outreach as a whole because of certain people are judgemental and hypocritical. You wanna quote from the bible but judge a church because of bad experiences with certain people... I go to Victory Outreach in Portland, Oregon and have left a few times because I decided. No one kicked me out or made me feel like I should choose them over the rest. I went to other churches and went to VO at the same time. My Pastor is like family to me and even ministered my mother's memorial for free. With no complaints. This blog is slander and very rude to say the least. Maybe you should open your bible again and remember, only God can judge us.

Deborah Miller said...

915Great job Karmen..I too go to Victory Outreach Portland, ive been there for 13 years. I was in another church and cried out to God because I needed a church that was more than just a Sunday am one time a week church. I came out of a very spirit filled church but needed a firm foundation in the word.i also needed to be in a church where I felt comfortable about testifying about what God had dine for me. At Victorey Outreach they made me feel comfortable about talking about how God had delivered me from my drug addiction. And as for those of you who have been in the home that are so negative... Trust me I bet you worked harder for the drug dealer than you ever did doing jobs for your room and board, yeah you did and you paid for it too with your spirit, dignity,and soul.ate out of the garbage , slept under the bridge or in anybodies bed..I know because people who have MADE it through our recovery programs have told me their testimonies. God is a God of Love, but he is also a God of order and Discipline... READ your bible. AND THEY CAME AGAIMST JESUS SO GUESS WHAT THEY WILL COME AGAINST US TOO. Im sorry for those of yoyu who DIDNT MAKE IT through the home. a lot of the time people leave because they have problems with authority and don't want ti listen to what is good and safe for them... PRIDE COMETH BEFORE THE FALL.

Steven Williamson said...

I was sent to victory outreach uk in Salford and left 6 days after realising that the whole set up of the operation was completely unprofessional and dysfunctional. They left addicts that had just come of a relapse in staff positions and the director mr mark penman gave those positions mark was never on site and was very un christian in many ways including his attitude and he never had the decency to contact me back after my text message I sent him when I walked out. I found the home un clean and un sanitised throughout, the sleeping arrangements and hygiene was discussing, not to mention that you don't even keep the bed you are given in fact you get toasted from pillar to post as and when the man a the top says so. Another point I want to make is the Fact they charge £512 to housing benefit under each persons name this supposing to be for a room when in theory it's defrauded the system by putting 2 and 3 people in a room together and often relied on so called staff to sleep on the floors when it becomes over crowded. I felt that people of authority was very good at the academic side of the bible teaching and studies but there Christianity actions and principles fell by the way side once structured process had finished. I found these people became selfish violent and judgmental towards others. The structure of the rules surrounding outings ect was completely dis functional and not thought out properly. The Concept of the program looks good on paper and on the web but is very different in practise. this place is not structured properly and needs officials to do something about these people running establishments like this. I appreciate that the concept saves lives but mine could have been lost because of negligence and dis functional infer structure. I will pray that God does what it needs to run properly and his will be done in all areas of this establishment .

liam Paget said...

I done the men's home in Manchester in 2005-6, I spent a year and a half their and I thank Jesus for p. Paul and sis. Vicky ,true soldiers of the cross they don't just speak the name more importantly they do the will of GOD, go you therefore and make disciples of all nations and that's what they do, I still miss the Manchester church and the people I met, one other thing its very tough working with addicts with bad attitudes, I know I was one, keep up the fantastic work paster Paul, liam og dublin

Lance Williams said...

I was a member of the church i las vegas, and I found that I didnt like what the head pastor was doing or saying at times. Yet i sat still for a while to see if there was another leader who actually wanted to teach without menace or threats.I met such a man and he showed his self to be a true god loving and fearing man. Pastor Ray of henderson. He took lots of time and love sharing gods message. Im happy that i waited. Thanks Ray. Airborne

Casey Wakefield said...

I Live in Kennewick wa come up here so I can shove 10 percent of my dick in your throat fagit fuck your church ihope you burn I'm Hell

Casey Wakefield said...

Your fake burn in Hell fagit

Casey Wakefield said...

I had sonny on my dick yesterday and then I had your mom

Casey Wakefield said...

I had sonny on my dick yesterday and then I had your mom

Casey Wakefield said...

Your fake burn in Hell fagit

Casey Wakefield said...

I Live in Kennewick wa come up here so I can shove 10 percent of my dick in your throat fagit fuck your church ihope you burn I'm Hell

Anonymous said...

My name is Gia.
I attended the Oakland Church 07-09, then briefly in 2013. I was not in their homes but have definately witnessed spiritual abuse,MAJOR dysfunction within Leadership, etc.., which hindered my spiritual growth.

I started attending this church during a season of difficulties. They were in financial despair with a huge amount of debt probably several hundred thousands, on the verge of loosing their church-building, and a home in $350,000 or higher price range in Berkeley Ca, the grand decrease of members since their 1985 opening to a hand full with a few new attendees like me. I had no idea what I got myself into but God allowed me to experience it for my own good and His purposes for my life.

I must admit I have had some discouraging, painful, and disturbing experiences with "leaders" in this particular branch. The last incident being recently where a "leader" named Ramona Jones started slandering my character, while speaking to another current VO Oakland attendee, unbeknowngst to Ramona that "she was on a call via speaker and I heard every word spoken."

I must also clarify that this is just one church out of many VO churches & I can only speak on the Oakland church because it's the only and final VO church i've attended.

Thru this experience I do not recommend anyone to the Oakland VO Church or homes, (since knowing what my daughter has experienced in her short stay and/or due to slave-labor conditions & treatment as well as criminal welfare fraud encouragement) I find myself recommending or taking people to other places like Rescue Mission in Richmond Ca or The Salvation Army Homes.

Overall, I have learned greatly from the experience. I'm grateful AbbaYehovah has healed me && has lead me to another ministry with MATURE Christian leaders for my spiritual growth.In my opinion they're criminally minded-self righteous, prideful beings hiding behind God.
May FatherYehovah have mercy on them.
God Bless && God Speed!

SharP said...

Wow! I'm shocked. Before reading these posts, I had high regard for Victory Outreach. I am not going to draw any conclusions right now, but I am thankful for the insight. I was thinking about getting involved in Victory Outreach due to my past experiences visiting one of the churches and hearing representatives speak in public.

Joe "Diamond" McD- said...
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Zachary Sadler said...

Hi my name is Zach Ive been to three VO mens homes in the past three years four times on and off. I live in Northern California and let me tell you its corrupt. These people are not of Christ more like the anti-Christ. Where do I even begin. They strip you of everything they take your welfare and use it how they want (food stamps etc.). Sometimes they use your food stamps on themselves and give you whatever table scraps are left. They work you like a dog but insure that no employment opportunities are ever available to you,lest you leave there homes and become employed by whomever they had you working for in their "Christian recovery home". These guys are professional con artists. They'll throw an unending guilt trip at you,shove their tradition down your throat. What can I say these people are highly deceptive and I haven't even begun.

Zachary Sadler said...

When I first joined Victory Outreach Stockton,California back in 2012 I was just looking for a place to get clean off the streets. I soon found out this organization was false. Just the pure unprofessionalism and being treated like a second class citizen always pissed me off when I was in there. The leaders in the home always seemed to look down there damn noses at me like I was nothing. They want you to be their slave in their recovery homes for a year so they can train you to be their robot for the church. They figure a year is long enough for the organization to brainwash you enough to become a full fledged member of there corrupt anti-Christ organization. They glorify the church's original founder Sonny Arguinzoni more than they do Jesus Christ. The leaders, the pastors of each of the churches especially are in it to make a name for themselves to be glorified by people. "Oh yeah pastor so and so I love him". Just last year I was under the pastoral leadership of a greedy man who even let his true intentions be known in the middle of a sermon no less. This happened last year I was in the VO Merced, CA men's home. The pastor (whose name I'll leave blank) starts ranting and raving up their on stage "when I first came to VO I saw all these pastors being waited on like kings and I thought to myself I want that". I should've know right then and there to cut but I didn't. That's just one example of their falsehood. Wasn't it satan himself who wanted the same thing to be glorified and worshipped like that above God.

Zachary Sadler said...

You know I gave these churches a chance I did. For two years on and off I joined there men's homes. From Stockton,CA to Merced,CA to Lodi,CA. Lodi being the worst. Last year alone I worked like a dog for the Lodi men's home and what did I get out of shit. I got tired of all the work and no benefit, from working like a slave at a circus to being treated like a pawn working at a carnival. Finally one morning before being shipped off to work at some carnival like a mindless robot I decided to leave Lodi I'd had it. The home was atrocious. It was like living in a barn then it really became like a cult when we were forced to pray in a dark dungey basement. We were working like slaves with hardly any breaks while the so called director who hardly ever did anything got to enjoy the fruits of are labor with Xfinity cable and internet. While us in the home were rarely ever allowed to watch any form of entertainment. I was always aways taught especially when your trying to serve God to abstain from worldy things like television where there's all sorts of perversion and hidden messages to get you away from God. Upon my resignation from Lodi I was denied the return of my ebt card(a.k.a) food stamps and threatened. "hey shut your mouth,what's up then homie!!) were some of the dialogue expressed that day.

Zachary Sadler said...

Well I guess at a church like VO Lodi where the pastor is more concerned about making money then helping people and more likely to jump around on stage like some crazy stand up comic then to really preach the word of God, what do you expect right? I don't know how many times that guy preached "how many of us know Cable television has power". Wow!! You mean more power than God Jesus?! Seriously folks if you or anyone you know has a drug or alcohol problem or is at risk of becoming homeless and is thinking of joining Victory Outreach don't. Please safe yourself the heartache. Like I said in an early post these guy's are pros at swindeling the needy.

Joe McD- said...

That's the MO of them same story, differnt victim folks.. HEllo....beware !

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Unknown said...

Been going to vo for 7 years not faithfully but I just got saved 4 months ago so it's been constant. I love vo. I love God for giving our founders the vision to help those in need. I never joined the men's homes. Sounds like you guys are greedy. Only think about yourselves. Like one of the posters said, every churches has its issues. God bless

Joe McD- said...

Unknown when you say "help those in need "... The market is what it is and basically... The Pastor his wife ,the Director and his wife and so on bank and make a living from the market...its all about Jesus and they put him in the closet once the show begins and this blog is about us and not newbee radical claim of how VO so great...Really find a Real ministry and don't fall for the Okeydoke ! As for being greedy...I have my own business blessings from God,s help and have a nice condo and fat bank account way after VO and still blessed..,went to China and going to Europe this year.So who is greedy ? Stop being a part of something that is not !

Joe McD- said...

Your right on bro ! They are the anti Christ and went through the same food stamp scam in Seattle in 2003/2004 and 2005 and probley still at it. I knew a church member who donated some $300 worth of hamburger....she asked if we got it and we said no , had no idea ? Come to find out that the Director gave it to the Pastor and church kitchen and Women's home ( his wife was Director of Women's home ) so the woman that donated the meat which was for the Men's Home , her and her Husband left the Church....same MO. Different victim my friend

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Catholic said...

I am catholic but all my family belong to victory outrage, i feel like im loosing them ive heard some conversations they have and they say im The Devil because im catholic and because of my sexual preference. Ive had my mother say to me she hates me and that she wants me to die!!. But i still love my family no matter what it hurts that im loosing them but i know god would fix things. Im not saying this church is a cult or that its members are bad because i know people didnt go there looking for the devil they go looking for god. Im. A Human a creation of the lord that became. His son the day i was baptised and i know that hes almighty and holy so who im i to judge and say a creation of the lord is a mistake or a disgrace im no body to question the lords will. Jesus is love not hate. Excuse my grammar i only been in the us for 2 years but i bless. And thank the lord jesus for this oportunity to come to the us and better my life. Good bless all of u
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Joe McD- said...

If your not part of the VO family you are of the Devil or anything other than the " Assembly of God " Churches you are so called misguided or whatever doctrine they cook up.....I'm so free now that I no longer be involved in politics or religion and no longer believe in the human race of now which is very confusing and hard to understand.... What helps me is I do not assemble myself to any group or org. I'm a free spirit and a fly on the wall watching the madness but not invovled....

RTchick760 said...

Thank you. . These homes are amazing.. and we (victory outreach) are not a cult.. but we are NOT NORMAL.. I agree.. we are extreem.. we come from backgrounds some only see in a movie or TV show.. we loved extreme loves before our encounter with Christ.. so we are extremely for Jesus. .as far as pastor Sonny being talked about as much or more than Jesus.. that's bologna! Pastor Sonny answered his call.. and for that we are great full for the example of what a man or woman in Christ should be.. but it's all about Jesus ..all about Jesus.. VO Victorville on the house. . GOD BLESS YA'LL

RTchick760 said...

Somethings happen in Loma Linda ...but u have to already have good insurance to be there.. and yes 10% it's biblical... i mean you are living there for free.. pay ur tithes. . Cmon.. some people need authority and structure I know I did when I first got sober... ju still saying

RTchick760 said...

Amen

RTchick760 said...

Structure...but a cult? Lol that's bologna!

Joe McD- said...

Well....Ok then sounds like your happy and hope things work out for you but much of this blog is people that experience spiritual abuse and.., usually Women and hard core addicts get turned by VO " Extreme " you fall for the "/sooth Sayer and doctrines of cliques and such. Old school fundamental pentacostlism ...,false prophets love the circle and act if you know God,s movement and doings....but soon down the road you will find out and write in here what you found out...ha ha. Good luck !

Unknown said...

Casey? Wow man....just wow smh

Anthony Applegate said...

Ive been involved with the Victory Outreach of Las Vegas for over 8 years and it has been terrible........Ive been physicaly assulted numous times.....verbally intimidated year after year.....reputation degraded, profiled, slandered, and now that my son is involved the same things are happening to him as well.....He is 12 a was punched 3 times by an adult who was attending a youth service and I wasnt notified......When I arrived no one in charge made any attemped to contact me.......and theu have been useing my 12 year old son to do manual labor in the church late nights......straighting chairs and cleaning sometimes till almist 10pm at night......I went inside to confront the personel as to why and immeditly I was approached violently by young adults to the point where I was being threatined to be assulted......As I was trying to leave I had to prepair to defend myself as the Youth Leader told everyone who had phones to video tape me........As they called the police accuseing me of battery.......

Anthony Applegate said...

There is always self rightous attitudes from alot of those who have position. And they will say "They are on another level than you".......the electrical services are mostly installed by incompitent and unskilled un licenced under qualified personel in one case a man died in one of their buildings attempting to install audio, video, and lighting for there services.....the recovery home is delapidated and un kept....years ago money was donated to remodel but wasnt professionally......now the house is even worse with unsanitary plumbing human sewage spilling outside the living quaters......10+ men living in a make shift room built outside out of scrap donated lumber with the roof caveing in.....Once saw an unskilled man fall through the roof trying to repair it......the entire property is INFESTED with bed bugs......

Anthony Applegate said...

The injured Man who fell through the roof was intimidated to remain silent about the situation and was told that by prayer he would be healed

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Anthony Applegate said...

Its terrible at Victory Outreach Las Vegas......through the years I've been told by leaders that I had emotional/mental problems......that I was bipoler somuch to the point where I believed them.....I was so concerened about it that I check myself into a local mental hospital for an entire week of evaluateing...over $3000 in bills.....The doctors told me there was nothing wrong with me.....Ive been stolen from leaders in the church....yelled at.....even humiliated by the Pastor to the congragation during services while volunteering in the band......was in the ministry over 6 years volunteering in EVERY department and the pastor never spoke to me....not even once......When we had our first conversation he thought I was a "new guy" in the Recovery Home.....

Joe McD- said...

This has to stop !!!!! I was in Vegas for holiday and even my bro,s on the street told me awful things that is going on ..., like I said this has to stop now ! Did Sonny get wind of this or was it swept under the rug with other nut bag "Charismatic God Holy Ghost Church wanna be,s "......I,m getting something together about to protest World Wide on this ..., this blog is ok and God Bless the Sister that put this together......but you as an American can fight back..., or if you can,t call me 206 305 1827 get justice for you....these people are not part of America or God,s Kingdom...., think about it ???
they are bad as ISIS !

Anonymous said...

They are looking for homeless drug addicts and GANG bangers that get welfare checks, so they can get them into their home, and feed them beans and rice. And two weeks later they are all pastors. Guess how many people show up for bible study when Monday night football is on. Yep. Zero ! They are a CULT !

Emma Lucas said...

Why are you so horrible casey?? Why do you feel you need to abuse people you dont even know? Everyone has the right to an opinion but there's no need for your nastyness

Candy Carrlzales said...

Most of you guys on here are extremely judgmental. Who are you to judge Victory Outreach or their tactics on getting people off of drugs and out of gangs? Were you commanded by God himself to judge them? If not, then I suggest you "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".

I was never a gang member nor a drug addict, but I was an active member in various ministries in V.O. for over ten years. I chose to leave the church for personal reasons, but have since attended a different church. And although there were some things I don't necessarily agree with in VO, they are still a Godly organization. Most of the people that complain and gripe about the stringent requirements of the homes are the ones who simply can't or don't want to complete the program. But understand this before you judge, it is a PROGRAM! Just like if you were court committed to another drug recovery program, you would still have to adhere to a strict set of rules. Most of them don't allow phone calls for the first 6 to 8 weeks, unless they are monitored. They don't allow you to work at all, and when you do, you have to surrender your money to the administrators. You have curfews, you have required meetings or support groups you have to attend, you have to report to your supervisors EVERYTHING you do... I mean for pete sake, we're talking about drug addicts here. Drug addicts are undisciplined with all their resources, so they have to be controlled or else they will just go back on drugs. The difference is that most, if not all, of V.O. homes are now volunteer based only. Which means you choose to be there.

If you don't like the rules, don't enter a V.O. Home, or leave. Simple as that. Go to a court appointed program, and be happy. As far as the church and the vision is concerned, if you don't like the church or their way of faith, , then don't go. Simple as that. There's nothing wrong with a movement following the leadership of it's founding father. Most Christian churches today don't have their founding leaders with them anymore, like John Wesley or Martin Luther. So what if V.O. holds their founder in high reverence. The Catholic church does the same thing to the Pope, and no one seems to have an issue with that. Bottom line is if you have time to start and maintain a blog about bashing church, then you obviously have too much time on your hands and aren't handling the things that God really expects of us as Christians. You never read about Jesus bashing other believers. In fact, go read John 9:50 where the disciples tell Jesus about someone else preaching his word, and Jesus tells them "Do not stop him, for whoever is not against us, is for us".

Truth is everybody has bad experiences in churches, no matter what denomination. The church is made up of people, who are not perfect. I was a leader myself, and I said some things that were wrong and probably even hurtful. I know I was wrong, but I'm one person, and I was learning how to lead, as are some of the leaders that may have hurt some of you. But take it to the Lord and let him speak to you. If he says to move on from the church, then just do it. But the commitments we made to the pastors and leaders were made by you and me. No one brain washed anybody. If we make that commitment, then we made it consciously. If you feel you made the wrong decision, then just leave and leave it between you and God. God bless everyone on this blog..

Unknown said...

Same ol same ol we got testimonials that are for the Movies , you love your past so much your be blinded by a PROFIT Organization who Leader and Deity is Sony Himself .

Illwilled said...

Same ol same ol we got testimonials that are for the Movies , you love your past so much your be blinded by a PROFIT Organization who Leader and Deity is Sony Himself .

Lance Crank said...

I was at Victory Temple Ministries in Ft Worth TX, and Im so glad to be done with that place. It was when the assistant pastor reached over to North Korea for an example of authority & devotion to ones leader that was the last straw for me. I didnt tell him that they murder people if they dont show reverence because I would have been disrespecting my leaders presentation lol. The lower leaders get off on antagonizing people & stirring up drama & then hide behind their little position that they wormed their way into. I got no use for that or them, made me lose respect. Especially with the rampant ignorance, the small & closed mindedness, and such it was rediculous. I recomend one doesnt go there. ~Lance xhomeboy from 2015

Frank Gonzales said...

Wow i spent about an hour commenting on this i will never think its ok to support a cult i will do what i have to do to have sobriety and stay clean and recovery from addiction ill never let this group be labeled as a godly ministry and will not keep such opinions quiet every thing about this trash is evil let alone misleads and lies to ppl by mentioning the bible only to twist the teachings of the bible to promote the vision and agenda of nothing else other than an antichrist/ guru/ dictator.which uses and take advantage of broken lost individuals who are good ppl most of the time just had a few chemical imbalances which lead them to get high or whatever misled them to their own destruction.either way even at that moment when u thibk u feel worthless or guilty please know that the right help will find youvor you will find the right help but only if ur ready to stop self destructing and can take responsibility for your decisions and except it find the reason you had a problem fix and move on to a future that will be filled with blessings through christ in sobriety. anyone who supports this trash needs to research victory outreach and than compare it to a google search about cults seriously

Frank Gonzales said...

Or dont research and continue believing that the vision of the the founding father is justly and its ok to mislead ppl by lying to them i have yet to hear any one member state the actions or steps they took to be in recovery and to have a reinforcement plan to prevent relaspe or any type or therapy needed to fix the addict as their own individual person which thats why im sure u have to be isolated from society let alone be around or see any loved ones big red flag of course they dont want you repeating what was said or done by the director to a loved one or your family to get u off drugs or rehabilitated the correct and right way because from what ive watched and read u are lead to believe tbat everything with be just or some lame excuse these so called godly ppl tell u and actually probaly treat u like dirt during the first thirty days to make u feel even more worthless even though u just battled and fought threough the worst most painful withdrawl and yet i have yet to hear one experince of getting passsed that or even a thank i jesus christ for letting me fight and conquer my withdrawl a technique i will assume they use to program u even more.if they seriously think its ok to try to rehabilitate an individual with brain washing and all these technique to clone u or drone a person thats seriously inhumane and there is only misery inside a person in these places ive seen it in the eyes of the so called recovery alcoholic this member literally had no excitment let alone was or even looked remotely greatful she was not drinking let alone thanked jesus christ that because she made the decision to stop she got custody of her kids they truely sound scripted in a monotone voice through lord im getting my kids back was pretty much the only time she didnt sound like a drone or was reminded of who she is and what truelly made her happy or want to stop

Kallie Jackson said...

I'm not sure why.I have no problem having faith in God even when I have nothing but I told this woman at Lodi VO I am pregnant hungry and might wanna join but she just said "uh huh" about the food part and said I'm not allowed to have a job...If I don't have a job how am I going to keep my baby.It will be born before then and I'm not working like no dog while I'm pregnant.I'm not sure what to do.going on a limb here.I get a bad vibe a lot but feel like I'm above it
.mostly.

Kallie Jackson said...

But anyways I don't know everything about it and don't like to jump to conclusions but I feel like I mean if this was any kind of Godly place and I'm pregnant why am I "Asking" IF I can eat a snack?That's sounds crazy to me.and I asked if we can bring in food.k.I eat organic I'm not eating table scraps if that's the case.I don't believe everything I hear.I might just try it a different day for a couple days.but man I ain't giving up EBT sorry.

Kallie Jackson said...

Ok.This is to all the people who talk solely about gangs and drug addicts.I am simply a girl who needs a home and some help.I am pregnant.If someone wants to take my source of food away etc I don't think they are what I need. I mean the woman on the phone sounded disappointed.. iI kid you not.disappointed like "Oh so you're not on drugs or anything?" Like um no I'm not.

Gods child said...

I agree it appears to be a cult. I started attending the church after I met my fiancee..He also went through the men's home for prior drug and alcohol abuse. It did help him kick both habits but I was extremely uncomfortable with"the vision" everything and I mean everything revolves around pastor Sonny's vision. That was weird to me. So much money from our local church went to the "mother" church again this was strange to me. Everything was about ministry, ministry, ministry and more ministry. And yes we were expected to serve at any cost.I must say I was in love with the way they devoted so much time to praise and worship it was powerful maybe because of my own personal relationship with Jesus.I was a but taken back by everyone, every service getting slayed in the spirit. That seemed to be a little artificial to me. More like something that was expected to try to authenticate the experience. I've had many encounters with the Holy spirit and I personally am not able to just turn it on at any given moment.I also wondered why hardly any other pastors or bishops or ministers rarely ever speak at a victory outreach church or event. This I assume because their secret would be blown out of the water. A real holy ghost God fearing minister would not condone their practices and would expose them for what they are.I'm no expert on cults but from what I've studied I would say that they are. It's mind control at its best.And it's sad because they go after the weakest of the weakest. Drug addicts prostitutes,runaways,ex cons,and people who feel like rejects of society. Victory Outreach makes them feel loved and important.When you don't know any better it's very easy to be ducked into such an organization. Thankfully for me I grew up in a Bible believing Bible teaching faith based church where Jesus Christ, God and the Holy Spirit were first and foremost. Lastly they have "Gang" God's anointed now generation that focuses on the youth.Train a child in the way they should go and they'll never depart from it. Mind control of children this is why generation after generation stays in this organization it's all they know since birth. Victory Outreach is dangerous and it's abusive and it twist the word of God to further one man's agenda. It's either your all in or your all out. Their slogan is "I am Victory Outreach" I say I am a child of the mist high God only! At first glance it seemed legitimate but the more I saw the more suspicious I became. This organization is not the real deal. Jesus us the only one who can open their eyes. I still love all if the people I met there although it was only a short period. We do not hang out anymore I have my reasons as to why but it's okay.I pray that one day they can experience God in truth. God bless!

Gods child said...

You are absolutely right. My soon to be husband experienced the same thing. You have to give them all of your wages or government benefits if you receive them.And the men's home living conditions that many churches have are absolutely deplorable. And yes woman are treated as second class citizens this made my blood boil. I'm all about women are the man's helpmate and men should lead. But it's taken out of context completely. Not a place of true worship.

Gods child said...

You are absolutely right. My soon to be husband experienced the same thing. You have to give them all of your wages or government benefits if you receive them.And the men's home living conditions that many churches have are absolutely deplorable. And yes woman are treated as second class citizens this made my blood boil. I'm all about women are the man's helpmate and men should lead. But it's taken out of context completely. Not a place of true worship.

Gods child said...

I agree it appears to be a cult. I started attending the church after I met my fiancee..He also went through the men's home for prior drug and alcohol abuse. It did help him kick both habits but I was extremely uncomfortable with"the vision" everything and I mean everything revolves around pastor Sonny's vision. That was weird to me. So much money from our local church went to the "mother" church again this was strange to me. Everything was about ministry, ministry, ministry and more ministry. And yes we were expected to serve at any cost.I must say I was in love with the way they devoted so much time to praise and worship it was powerful maybe because of my own personal relationship with Jesus.I was a but taken back by everyone, every service getting slayed in the spirit. That seemed to be a little artificial to me. More like something that was expected to try to authenticate the experience. I've had many encounters with the Holy spirit and I personally am not able to just turn it on at any given moment.I also wondered why hardly any other pastors or bishops or ministers rarely ever speak at a victory outreach church or event. This I assume because their secret would be blown out of the water. A real holy ghost God fearing minister would not condone their practices and would expose them for what they are.I'm no expert on cults but from what I've studied I would say that they are. It's mind control at its best.And it's sad because they go after the weakest of the weakest. Drug addicts prostitutes,runaways,ex cons,and people who feel like rejects of society. Victory Outreach makes them feel loved and important.When you don't know any better it's very easy to be ducked into such an organization. Thankfully for me I grew up in a Bible believing Bible teaching faith based church where Jesus Christ, God and the Holy Spirit were first and foremost. Lastly they have "Gang" God's anointed now generation that focuses on the youth.Train a child in the way they should go and they'll never depart from it. Mind control of children this is why generation after generation stays in this organization it's all they know since birth. Victory Outreach is dangerous and it's abusive and it twist the word of God to further one man's agenda. It's either your all in or your all out. Their slogan is "I am Victory Outreach" I say I am a child of the mist high God only! At first glance it seemed legitimate but the more I saw the more suspicious I became. This organization is not the real deal. Jesus us the only one who can open their eyes. I still love all if the people I met there although it was only a short period. We do not hang out anymore I have my reasons as to why but it's okay.I pray that one day they can experience God in truth. God bless!

WomanofGod said...

Hi, so what do we do if we want to take our money back..i have envested alot in this so called ministry...they have collected $1000 pledge a d have asked us to pay $200 a month on top of our 10% and we dnt even have a church building so wheres all that money going? I want my money back atleast my 1000 and my $200 i have given them...what do i do? I rather take that money to the poor kids with cancer or myself go out and feed the homeless...

Unknown said...

Hello.
I came in the Home, got saved, change and now productive in life .
I wasted 27 years of my life in drugs and streets .
I thank God for His love and mercy
I thank God for Vitory outreach
And I thank God for my pastors .

Samantha Iglesias said...

I think there is a much more sinister deep rooted agenda going in with V.O.
The tactics they use to lead some people there (myself being one of them)
Involve organized gang stalking. they are now stalking my husband, from whom I am separated.
I live in fort worth, tx. and about a year ago they began their campaign. It's alot of information to sit here and type, so I will sum it up as best I can and if anyone is interested in knowing all the details message me.
Started out with people following me in every store I shopped at. they harassed me by crowding around me, letting their kids play in my way and they would always tell store personnel that I was stealing. then it escalated into them following me on the road and it was blatant the way they would do it so they very much wanted me to notice it. Then one day I was driving one min and the next thing I know I'm in a parking lot 7 hrs later with a cross on my lap and a strong new belief in God because I thought I was dead. very bizarre surreal shit happened to me that entire day that reinforced my faulty belief. two strangers appeared in my home (from victory) and filled my head and heart with the fear of going to hell. I went crazy cops came and sent me to the county psych ward the next day I get released and somebody steals my bus pass so I'm walking and a car with some of the ladies that had harassed me in the past while shopping pulls over and offers me a ride. I accept but they wont take me home and talk me in to going to V.O. That place is a mind control center. It was a very surreal week of what they said was the Holy ghost convicting me. I would hear thoughts in my head that was more like a catty ignorant bitch telling me to brush my teeth and take short showers. Bizarre I finally found the strength to run out the front door and never go back. the gangstalking has recently started up again but I will not be going back there. Anyone out there experiencing this sort of thing. HMU or find me on face book samantha watson

Unknown said...

So true... Everything revolves around Pastor Sonny's vision to help hurting people all over the world. What a bunch of animals. Haha. Sad how people focus on the imperfection of man and try to ignore the perfecting of Christ in the lives of those trying. God is the Great Judge. You don't like what this ministry is doing, u take drug addicts, gang members and prostitutes into ur own home. So we can see how perfect u run it. I pray that the body of Christ one day will stop fighting against itself and reach those that don't know Him.

Matt B said...

The gayest comment a's he's calling someone else a faggot. Haha

David White said...

MY NAME IS DAVID WHITE AND I ATTEND VO AND ITS SAD HOW A BUNCH OF YOU GET ON HERE AND COMPLAINE ABOUT THE VEHICLE GOD USED IN YOUR LIVE TO HELP U. SOME OF YOU SHOULD BE DEAD YOU HAVE TO BE GREATFUL NO 1 CHARGED FOR YOU TO COME INTO OUR HOMES YOU SLEPT ATE ALL FOR FREE I CAME INTO THE HOME WITH A BACK PACK WITH A DIRTY PAIR OU UNDERWEAR IN IT. NO 1 LOVED ME AND BECAME MY FAMILY YOU GUYS COUNDNT HANG WITH THE HOME AND LOOK FOR SUCKERS THAT HAVE WEBSITES TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSE OF GOD BECAUSE YOU WERENT ABLE TO GET YOUR WAY OR A TITLE OR YOU COUNDNT HANDLE WAT GOD WAS DOING IN YOUR LIFE I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU ARE STILL SERVING GOD OR ARE YOU BACK OUT SUFFERING FROM THE ADDICTIONS NO MATTER JUST LIKE JESUS DID FOR ME HE ALWAYS HAD OPEN ARMS FOR ME EVERY TIME I CAME BACK

Joe McD- said...

You bought in too it....this blog is for the real survivors of spiritual abuse and some of us were not street people ect.....don't get it twisted!

Unknown said...

Sorry Cassie!! ,,Did you at least call the police?

Unknown said...

Sorry Cassie!! ,,Did you at least call the police?

Ezequiel Torres said...

You kiss your mother with that faul mouth?,,, wait a minute are from the south and you do stuff like kissing your mother and your sisters.I apologize my friend .no not really.go have sex with momma and sister.maybe that will calm u down. : )

Ezequiel Torres said...

HA,H5?? WTF.Good Luck? That's very encouraging. Grow up .

Ezequiel Torres said...

As bad as ISID? WTF are you smoking. Your just a punk ass foreigner.Leave back to your weakass,country.GTFO

Ezequiel Torres said...

White people make want to kick some white trash booty.or what ever your race is

Ezequiel Torres said...

AGAIN REALLY GOOD ADVICE.DON'T GET IT TWISTED? I REALLY WANT A GOD THAT YOU SERVE. NOT EVEN TAKE YOUR COMPLAINING SELF SOMEWHERE ELSE,FUCKEN CRY BABY!

Ezequiel Torres said...

AGAIN REALLY GOOD ADVICE.DON'T GET IT TWISTED? I REALLY WANT A GOD THAT YOU SERVE. NOT EVEN TAKE YOUR COMPLAINING SELF SOMEWHERE ELSE,FUCKEN CRY BABY!

Ezequiel Torres said...

Writing about this shit is retarded

Ezequiel Torres said...

Are really a survivor? Or just a punk ass pussy!

Unknown said...

Your all ridiculous. Before you tell your brother that he has a speck in his eye first take out the log out your eye then tell him he has speck in his eye! For every church asks for money no matter where you go. For god said drink my blood and eat my body and you will have eternal life. For it does not matter where you worship! even if its in isreal! -God God called up men to do his work and they themselves left all their belongings to do his work! They did not ask why they just did as they were told. There are plenty of people dying and end times are almost here instead of fighting we all must worship the lord with all our faith! Become a david and fight temptations and be strong in his mighty name. For the lion has taken you away from the heard! That is why david always ran after the sheep the lion took! To bring it back for the glory of god! For even a cry and tears count as prayers. ALL WHO DENY HIM WILL BE DENIED IN HEAVEN.

Anonymous said...

I grew up in that church when it was in La Puente in the early 90's.
The way I was treated growing up then, I'll pass on taking my kids to this or any church now. I am the Punk rocker druggie guy when went to the army to straighten out his life. Well, not long after my first post, I came to the conclusion that there is no higher power.
It was this church that drove me to atheism and might I say there is nothing more heart warming than hearing my oldest daughter tell her brainwashed cousins "God isn't real, but it's a great story".

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Anonymous said...

Are you sure do you not realize you have ruined my life by saying that? You see i was baptized at victory outreach in 1982 and I did not see any occult. We read from the Bible. And I even received the gift of tongues.

Anonymous said...

Unknown you are so right. God is real and Bible Prophecy says so. And I do not think Victory Outreach is a Occult like you say. I think cause you do not believe you want others to be just like you. I was baptized in 1982 by Victory Outreach. I know for a fact God is real and if you only know what plans He has for us.There is a Book called Mystery of the Ages/Trumpet by Herbert W. Armstrong. That tells everything how Lucifer fell from Grace. Who God is He is a spirit that is why you can not see Him. His plans are to have us all as His Spirit family. He created the Earth and Universe for this purpose. I suggest you get this free book. Google Mystery of ages/trumpet shipping is free also. You can also read the book on-line while you wait for it. I went to the Mother church in La Puente it was a school turned into Church. I was in there Christian home we prayed read our Bible I never seen nothing that would indicate that it was a bad place. I even received the gift of tongues from the Holy Spirit right after I was baptized.

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Anonymous said...

I think I will pray for all of you who do not Believe. God has touched my life. If you have become a atheist answer me one thing? Do you really believe that after you die you cease to exist? Cause I know if that was true to me then my life would not have been worth living. I was raised in a Church for some of my life. Please pray and Talk to God and Jesus to see what He says back to you. Ask Him if He is real. I'm sure you would get some kind of answer. For you can see it all around you satan is all around us. Even the Bankers and elite admit they worship satan. And Pope Francis who is actually the Antichrist actually blasphemies Jesus all the time. Google it Pope Francis says Jesus is a sinner. Pope francis says that Jesus failed His mission on earth. And Pope francis who was a Jesuit. has risen up the Virgin Mary and lowered Jesus. All Blasphemy, also google: The Jesuit oath and read it. The Jesuit's are assassins for the catholic Church. And the Catholic Church also said they changed the true Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday a long time ago. For those who want proof that Pope Francis is the AntiChrist I have the proof cause God gave it to me. I could not find all those Bible Prophecies I have without God's help.

Joe McD- said...

So true.....I have witness the same thing in Seattle 2003-2005 and maybe still going but I never see them around or hear about them doing anything in Seattle or White center...seatac areas , so much for the Victory !

Anonymous said...

I wanted to let you know I had been in more than one Christian home.And sometimes you run into the directors of these homes that are not okay. It could be the directors in the homes and not the Church that is the Problem. I was on Parole and I wanted to go on my own to a christian home to get closer to God.My drug of choice was Heroin.By the way did you know that the CIA brings the Heroin into our Country to sell? Well it si true you know Afghanistan they grow it there and soldier guard the Poppy plants there. It was the Taliban who took over Afghanistan and destroyed the Poppy plants(Heroin) and now our soldiers guard those plants. The CIA brings them to America via soldiers coffins. Well getting back to that Christian home yet its was not Victory outreach.I was in this home and they allowed people to have children in this home. I had my son he was 2 years old. Cute blonde curly hair.The Director took me to the welfare.I got a Christian Social Worker and she gave my son and I food stamps but on the way back to the home the Director stopped at the market and bought her and her son food with my Food stamps.She put them in her room where she had a locked refrigerator.There was some trouble in the home.I got blamed for it and three of us was called into the Director's room she told the other 2 you know I love you and her I can just call her Parole Officer and send her back to prison.I told her oh no you can not I came into the home on my own free will.Then my boyfriend brought my dad's Bible to the Church and I did not know it until I seen girl with it in the Kitchen.I asked her where did you get that Bible? She said from the director it belongs to a girl in the home.I told her it belongs to me. She would not give me the Bible , it was mine. Then one day we went to do car wash and when we did she let her favorites stay and watch the Children. Well when I got back its was the last straw my 2 year old son had a cigarette burn on his back.I left an went to the Pastor and told him everything.But most all I wanted my Bible back. It was important cause when I was 14 my dad died and wanted to be buried with that Bible.But the State put a lock on my dad's 2 house cause there was no will and they had to search the houses to find anything.The Bible was locked in there when my dad was buried. It took me awhile month to get that antique Bible back. It was a huge Bible with red Vinyl coverings with pictures on the front. I got the Bible back but just to be mean she tore the cover off of it.She did not want to give it back Last I heard they sent her back east so she can be discipline.You see the Church found out from me about it all the Cigarette burn on my son's back and she was dealt with. So sometimes you will come across directors like that.The only reason why I left Victory Outreach cause the Director of the home when we were at the Mother church in La Puente she was doing a lot of gossip about me and others. And I thought how can I get right with God if she is Gossiping and she was not a good influence on me. It had nothing to do with the Church you do know that Victory Outreach is a Evangelist and Pentecostal Church they believe in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.And they do have people that do get Gifts from the Holy Spirit after i was baptized I got the Gift of Tongues of course I knew nothing about the Holy Spirit and had no idea why I got the gifts of tongues.Some Christians say that the Pentecostal Churches are misled about Tongues by satan.But I also heard is a gift from the Holy Spirit. I heard of 2 one is of language so you can spread the word to other people about God that you do not know their language. And another one is called Angel Tongues.There is one where your soul talks to God directly but I'm not sure of that one. I just wanted to let you know it takes all kinds in different Christian homes and it usually does not mean the Church is bad.It only means the Directors of the homes might be bad.She was discipline by the church.

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Anonymous said...

I just found out that we were in a Pentecostal Church that is what Victory Outreach is. It is also said that the Pentecostal Church is misled by satan. They are all into gifts from the Holy Spirit and the tongues I received after being baptized was not from God, but it was satan tricking us. Google: The Pentecostal Church and tongues you will see what I mean. Anyone baptized in there may have been baptized into satan's family. Or if you accepted Jesus in your life it might not be true. I have to look into this more. If anyone finds in information on this please let me know. I'm all broken up on this. I guess you were right about it not being from God. Now what would we do? It is to late to be baptized we are in end times and mostly all Churches have been taking over by satan. So if anyone comes into this conversation and have been in this church let them know really it is true what you said.

Unknown said...

Can't believe VO has not been closed down for their terrible lawless practices! I was practically kidnapped in the UK sent to Dublin, had all my possessions removed then tossed out penniless and told I would be raped and murdered when I left! I had to beg to get home to Manchester. They are a fucking cult!

Unknown said...

Can't believe VO has not been closed down for their terrible lawless practices! I was practically kidnapped in the UK sent to Dublin, had all my possessions removed then tossed out penniless and told I would be raped and murdered when I left! I had to beg to get home to Manchester. They are a fucking cult!

Unknown said...

Another brain washed dummy, if you and your cult were smart you would know God started in not sonny and julie, that is were you guys are wrong at and would never surrender to the truth

Faces Mob said...

Were from the bible did your fake pastor read from dumb ass

ChristDiedForYou said...

Research should go deeper than a Google search. All that shows is how many hits the site got from most to least. Anyone can write anything, and if one person gets all their friends to click on a site everyday, it looks like more people are reading it, thus get bumped closer to the top. The gifts of The Spirit are real. Read The Bible ... check out Acts and 1 and 2 Corinthians. You can't receive the Holy Spirit or His gifts without believing and having your heart open to Him and what He is doing. This derived from true gratefulness. And the Bible says that touched is the the evidence of salvation. Yes, satan has a language of his own... (a "copy-cat tounge" for lack of knowledge of satanic terms). Everything good has a demonic counterpart, therefore the enemy comes like an angel of light... to steal, kill, and destroy. We believe those lies from the devil when we don't know the truth... or only know a part of it. A little white lie, is still a lie. Be careful what you read... such as most the garbage and straight lies on this page. The internet is full of misinformation. Be careful what you say about God's anointed... that includes the Pentacostal movement, Victory Outreach, and Pastor Sonny Arguinzoni.


God saved me 12 years ago using Victory Outreach. Was the rehab home easy? No, but it was worth it. Die to your flesh, humble yourself and be obedient to whoever God places before you to teach you (Hebrews 13:17) but if someones heart is closed to correction because they are not getting their way, still detoxing, or just spiritually immature, of course you are going to find every excuse to leave and bad mouth an organization that tried to help you. You have to want to change for VO to work, because yes, we are led by God first and He's a gentleman. God knocks, but you need to open the door and let Him in. That goes for every situation, not just salvation. We ask God help me, give me favor, or even open the right door, but we can't be deaf, dumb, and blind to what He shows us. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, people are human and not perfect. People aren't perfect when God raises them up, either. Leaders say things in emotion, are too strict, and can even be prideful and wrong, but even the most holy person's righteousness is like dirty rags to God. if you think you're better, act on it and forgive them. You will break some stuff off in your life and you will walk more free. The Bible says she who is forgiven much, loves much (and from them much is required). God has used VO to help me when I couldn't help myself. They have taught me how to love... check out 1 Corinthians 13, the Biblical definition isn't a feeling, they are action words.... verbs. You say you love God, you think you are saved? Prove it and service Hom. The Bible says love the Lord with all your heart, all your mind, and all your soul and likewise, love your neighbor as yourself. (That means Serve, serve, serve, work, work, work.... and we come into the home having problems with that because most of us didn't work beforehand). My suggestion, go to a library, preferably at a Christian college, but any library will do...and truly study the Book of Acts, The Holy Spirit, His function, and the Gifts of The Spirit along with the Pentacostal movement from which we came out of.

ChristDiedForYou said...

The Bible says Tounges is the evidence...

Truth. said...

VO is full of child molesters and fornicators of every kind, married & single. I know this personally as I attended this church as a young teen. I was not a drug user or gang member, I was just homeless. The fact that this church is full of ex drug addicts and ex convicts is the least of their problems. The pastors and leaders are worshiped at this church and everyone does as they are told by the church leaders, without question. They get away with the worst kind of sin here. Taking advantage of innocent youth and children. Trust me I know.

james67707 said...

Victory Outreach is brainwashing people to believe they can't make it without them Sonny is getting richer every day can't you see what's going on here the private jet all his luxuries wake up

james67707 said...

Victory Outreach is brainwashing people to believe they can't make it without them Sonny is getting richer every day can't you see what's going on here the private jet all his luxuries wake up

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Anonymous said...

I was baptized in Victory outreach I did receive tongues after the baptism but now I can not hear God. How would you get that back? There are these prayers that heal the heart I can not do them without hearing the Holy Spirit. You have to ask what is in your heart to the Holy Spirit, but I could not get a answer. I have the Holy Spirit but can not hear Him.

Unknown said...

Amen!! Mens HOME saver my marriage and my family. I thank God for using VO Summerlin. Not brainwashed but renewed with the mind of Christ Jesus. Thank you Pastor Sonny and Pastor Mando for your obedience to God and for answering the call of God....

Deiner Tindall said...

I currently am in Victory Outreach Portland Oregon Church.

I've been in the church 7 years now. I'm a graduate of the VO Portland Recovery Home.

I served as Head Staff for 6 months, before I was ousted from my position for being way to lenient.

As head staff, I cut the work week to 8hrs, 5 day a week. I directed my cooks to feed my guys good food instead of the usual beans and rice and spaghetti meals. I was tired of seeing the staff and my predicessor eating good while the rest of the guys ate mediocre meals.

When I became head staff, that stopped. I told my staff that everyone was going to eat the same meals. Although some disagreed, everyone eventually went with it.

Under me, we worked alongside our guys. Our director included.
I allowed my guys to be themselves and although I was ousted, I remained the senior staff, always being there and watching out for my guys until I graduated and moved on.

Although the finances were a big issue in the religious organization itself, I understood the treatment many received.

I wasn't raises in the VO Church. I came from the streets and although I really wasn't an addict, I believed that the church opened its doors for me and gave me hope.

When I taught in the home, I always based my teachings in Christ and assured my guys that it was their decision in how they wanted to live their lives.

Although i acknowledged the church, I always told the guys to pray and ask god for wisdom and encouragement.

No I don't believe its a cult, but I will say that it depends on the VO Church you go to. Ours is thriving because we have a strong pastor who genuinely cares about the congregation and the homes.

However others are not, because there's pastors who care about money and power. I feel for those in other VO Homes and Churches.

Stay strong my friends and don't give up hope.

Deiner Tindall said...

It depends on the church. VO Portland is very respected and the LD pastor and his wife are awesome people.

Ahmina said...

I was apart of v.o for ten years and the Lord called me out. I was growing spiritually and my eyes were opened to the errors. I even had a dream about it and the Lord had me deliver a corrective rebuke to the pastor's to which of course I was called demonic..Rebellious. ECT. Then God said leave and don't go back. They lost they're first love. Theres more devotion to v.o church the v.O super celebs..Including Sonny and Julie than there is Jesus. If a church truly is operating I the spirit..Preaching the true word of God then as pastors your not going to allow sin on the pulpit. I have stories of known lesbian relationships between pastors wives..Pastors celebrate unwed mother's pregnancies with big showers..Sin is ignored. It should not be. It's accepted. It's rampant with pastoral lust fornication and adultery. These people should not be in a place of leadership while actively commiting these acts. In the old church..If someone was in sin they would be removed from service. Counseled and prayed with for deliverance. The holy spirit is stifled here and the word is not taught in any depth. Messages are littered with funny stories and rehearsed quips. They did serve a purpose in my walk at one point and I do see some who actually benefit from it but like I said, they have lost they're first love. Jesus.

MUG said...

ABUSIVE 'wolves in sheep's clothing'
I came away in a much more traumatized state than before I got mixed up with VO in Salford, Manchester. Disgraceful bunch.

MUG said...

Worst experience with VO. Exploiting your fragility and vulnerability. They need to be shut down...and they know it themselves, that's why they are always so defensive. Salford, Manchester. Wolves in sheep's clothing.

Veritas said...

Attended Victory Outreach LasVegas when it first started was there for 18 years and it's so sad to hear these stories about how the church and homes are ran because I can honestly say I witnessed all of the above over 18 years and kept quiet because every time I tried to stand up for what was right. I got black balled from the pastor's and leadership.

Veritas said...

Attended Victory Outreach LasVegas when it first started was there for 18 years and it's so sad to hear these stories about how the church and homes are ran because I can honestly say I witnessed all of the above over 18 years and kept quiet because every time I tried to stand up for what was right. I got black balled from the pastor's and leadership.

Michael said...

It's the same story over and over I feel ashamed to even speak of that church I went to the church of the harbor or Torrance church or San Pedro. I studied under pastor Robert who is a very good preacher and really had influenced me to stay in the ministry. The the Bible says the works of the flesh are evident. He was sat down for embezzlement and adultry may God deliver him the from the bondage of victory outreach his predecessors whom discipled and instilled that in him. There are more articles and websites dedicated to truth who acknowledge this I pray that the founders of this organization would acknowledge the falshood they teach and repent before they cause more people to be hurt believing all Christian's behave believe and live that way. God loves me blesses me no matter where I choose to worship him whether in a temple or a manger.

ANONYMOUS said...

I WISH TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS. I WAS A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR AT VO SAN FRANCISCO IN THE NINETIES. GOD DELIVERED ME FROM DRUGS AND ALCOHOL PRIOR TO GOING TO VO, SO I WAS ALREADY SAVED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE BIBLE WHEN I STARTED ATTENDING. I ATTENDED QUITELY AND WAITED TO SEE WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE ME DO THERE. THEY INVITED ME INTO LEADERSHIP, BUT I NEVER SPENT MY PERSONAL TIME WITH ANY OF THEM BECAUSE I SENSED FROM THE START THAT THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH GOD WERE IMMATURE AND OFF TRACK, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT I DISCERNED. SO I KEPT TO MYSELF, ALL THE WHILE FAITHFULLY SERVING, SPENDING MY TIME, ENERGY AND FINANCES AS WAS REQUIRED OF ME. GOD BLESSED WHATEVER I DID THERE, AND THEY ALL SAW THIS AND KNEW IT. THEY WERE EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF ME. THERE WAS A WOMAN THERE IN TOP LEADERSHIP WHO WAS THE MOST EVIL AND CONTENTIOUS, TRYING TO TURN EVERYONE AGAINST ME, CREATING FALSE RUMORS AND SLANDERING ME. AND MOST OF THEM BOWED DOWN TO HER EVERY COMMAND, BUT I DID NOT. ALTHOUGH I SERVED FAITHFULLY, I NEVER BOWED DOWN TO THEM AND THEY RESENTED ME FOR THAT. THEY KNEW I HAD A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS OUTSIDE OF VO SO I WAS NEVER FULLY ACCEPTED INTO THE INNER CIRCLE, ALTHOUGH I WAS IN LEADERSHIP. I DID LOVE MY PASTOR, A FEW TIMES HE WARNED ME THAT I WAS BEING SLANDERED AND HE TOLD ME IT WAS AN ATTACK OF THE DEVIL. I ONLY SPOKE TO HIM A FEW TIMES BUT BELIEVED IN THE VISION SO I BACKED HIM UP, WHATEVER HE WANTED. HIS WIFE WAS JEALOUS OF ME AND SHE AND HER FRIEND WATCHED MY EVERY MOVE. THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DIRECTLY UNDER ME AND PART OF MY MINISTRY WITHIN THE CHURCH WERE THE ONES WHO REALLY KNEW ME AND APPRECIATED WHAT I DID. ULTIMATELY, THE PASTOR,HIS WIFE AND THE ELDERS FELT THREATENED BY SOMEONE (ME) WHO LEGITIMATELY OPERATED UNDER GOD'S ANOINTING AND AUTHORITY, SO THEY (WITHOUT TALKING TO ME, BECAUSE THEY KNEW I KNEW THE WORD OF GOD; HOW WOULD THEY JUSTIFY THEIR UNDERHANDED TACTICS TO SOMEONE WHO KNEW THE WORD AND HAD BEEN SET FREE?)HELD EVENTS TO DISMANTLE MY MINISTRY AND LEAD THOSE UNDER ME TO REPORT TO OTHER LEADERS. AFTER THAT, I LEFT THE CHURCH AND NEVER RETURNED. MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD HAS ONLY GROWN OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE I KNOW JESUS; HE IS THE ROCK OF MY SALVATION. IT IS NOT VO. GOD DEFINITY USES VO TO REACH THOSE WITH ADDICTION, BUT VO IS CERTAINLY NOT FOR EVERYONE. IT'S MEMBERS NEED TO GROW AFTER BEING DELIVERED FROM ADDICTION; IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST "GET DELIVERED". THEY NEED TO GROW INTO CHRISTIANS WHO ARE MATURE IN THE TRUE FAITH AND GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST; IT'S NOT THE GOSPEL OF VICTORY OUTREACH. TO STAY THERE TOO LONG WILL STUNT A BELIEVER'S GROWTH AND MATURATION.

Unknown said...

Girl glad you wrote this I have a guy best friend that is in a home in eagle rock I wrote a few letters one about how I got saved and filled with the holy spirit one about me going thru depression cause he's not reachable anymore and one questioning him if he didn't have sex with me a couple weeks before he went in the home cause he had a gf. He just wrote me and told me I can not write him anymore I can only send packages because my letters were positive and negative and they eontblet him have them because I wrote about sex in one. I was wondering if he was lying to me about this. But now I read this I believe it's the home not letting me write. That's messed up how they say I'm not his wife or baby's momma so he don't need to get mail from me. Who do we write to to complain about this. Thx Michele in LA, xa

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Families Against Cult Teachings said...

To everyone writing complaints about Victory Outreach,

Our non-profit organization is currently researching and investigating this church. We are asking all those who believe they have been manipulated, exploited and/or abused by this church to file complaints with our office as soon as possible.

For more information about our anti-cult 501c3 organization and/or to file a complaint with our office, please visit: www.familiesagainstcultteachings.org

- The FACT Team

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Yes vicory outreach is A devil of A church seen leaders pastors steal money got gifts money and flown to hawaii by its church memebers I never seen in the bible Jesus taking money to go Hawaii or vacations what type of shit is that really especially the Brawley vo las vegas vo mens home all corrupt especially the henderson home in las vegas dirty leaders wanna bees smoking cussing fighting i seen it all the food stamps do get the directors pocket or the pastors I have seen the evilness of every home I have been too I seen the others say the same thing and its all true theres better christian mens home that dont steal the stampd like the redeemer mens home they feed you good and I seen the abundance of food and the director told me the pastor does not take no stamps for himself I noticed the difference in these 2 churches I wondered how vo fed you oatmeal one piece of bread and maybe a shot of koolaid if your luckyanother goodhome in el monte called new hope church good pastors and awesome mens home I thank God for the good churches that are out there helping the drug adddict and helping to do what God wants them to do

Jesus said...

If looking for A good mens home christian based heres one in el monte ca called new hope community church in Brawley ca they got good leaders great pastor who is humble and into the mens home all around great home clean and respectful brothers in christ

RTchick760 said...

Thats brave of you... I am glad you found somewhere... its hard enough to have addictions but when the people that supposed to represent Christ take advantage of low times in your life... so horrible.. and just sickening... thats why theres so many back sliding...my heart cries for those.. YAHWEH BLESS YOU.. STAY STRONG IN ADONAI

Verastegui said...

My boyfriend of ten years went to the men's home in Victorville we have two kids one is in a hospital since birth due to premature birth.i was not allowed to have contact with him about medical decisions for our daughter they never relayed messages that we're important .my boyfriend escaped 3 times the last time was because a friend of the director heard I was dateing her ex and they went to tell him ..couldn't tell him his daughter was sick but could tell him about gossip.After him trying to kill himself he decided to go back he's in Huntington Beach now and it's even worse .our son has had his life changed he lost his dad ,family ,and sense of security has said to his teachers he wants to kill himself so now he's got to have counseling.i was told by director that my boyfriend couldn't talk to me even though we have kids that I trigger him .they won't let him attend a meeting for our sons well being because I will be there.that really my family isn't really a family because we were never married and that's living in sin .how they claim to restore family's is untrue they don't allow mail ,calls or even allow them to think for themselfs .From my boyfriend's mouth he was never told the first time he went to the home of any problems .I don't believe they care about anyone or there family's if they don't belong to there church .it angers me because that's my son's life .

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Ansley George said...

Hello Brethren in the Lord,
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George Ansley said...

TBJOSHUA SCOAN HQ LAGOS NIGERIA wish to inform the General Public that the Current distribution of the NEW ANOINTING WATER AND STICKERS is still on and you can only get the NEW ANOINTING MORNING WATER, FAITH BRACELETS AND STICKERS , DVD's Of Prophet TB Joshua and The Mirror Books by ordering for it. To make an order send the following DETAILs to TB Joshua Official Email Address:



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This is to enable us for further processing. We will reach you on the cost of courier Delivery charges to send your Package to your Country through DHL Courier Delivery service. GOD BLESS YOU

EMMANUEL. EMMANUEL

George Ansley said...

TBJOSHUA SCOAN HQ LAGOS NIGERIA wish to inform the General Public that the Current distribution of the NEW ANOINTING WATER AND STICKERS is still on and you can only get the NEW ANOINTING MORNING WATER, FAITH BRACELETS AND STICKERS , DVD's Of Prophet TB Joshua and The Mirror Books by ordering for it. To make an order send the following DETAILs to TB Joshua Official Email Address:



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This is to enable us for further processing. We will reach you on the cost of courier Delivery charges to send your Package to your Country through DHL Courier Delivery service. GOD BLESS YOU

EMMANUEL. EMMANUEL

SCOAN ADMIN said...



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I am alive. said...

I was one of those rare people in Victory Outreach that never did drugs, never in a gang, or never in prison. I am a square. I never really thought I belonged despite the best efforts made to convince me that I did. I have to be the most gullible son of a bitch in history because I believed it for 10 years. I think it had to do with me having a good paying job and being a financial resource. I think they thought they could scam me and they did for 10 years like I said. I feel if you have never did any of the above you have nothing to offer anybody in the way of advice. You cannot relate. So if your like me stay away. It will only complicate your life.

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SCOAN ADMIN said...

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Hello Brethren in the Lord,
May the peace and unity of the holy spirit fall upon you and your entire family as you read this splendid message from the synagogue church of all nations (SCOAN).

Remember that our Lord Jesus Christ is still saying something as He is the deliverer, the healer and the same yesterday today and forever. God has used prophet TB Joshua morning water to work miracles and i know yours will not be a different in Jesus name!!!!

The God of prophet TB Joshua is a wonder working God. God have used the medium of the morning water to heal thousand of diseases, ranging from HIV AIDS, CANCER, BRAIN TURMOIL, TYPE 2 DIABETES, FINANCIAL BREAKTHROUGHS, FREEDOM FROM POVERTY, BUSINESS BREAKTHROUGH ETC. If you need the morning water, and you do not have the time or money to visit the synagogue church of all nations, you can get one by contacting our email.

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Scoan shipping said...

HELLO BETHREN TB JOSHUA SCOAN HQ LAGOS NIGERIA wish to inform the General Public that the Current distribution of the NEW ANOINTING WATER AND STICKERS is still on and you can only get the NEW ANOINTING MORNING WATER, FAITH BRACELETS AND STICKERS , DVD's Of Prophet TB Joshua and The Mirror Books by ordering for it. To make an order send the following DETAILs to TB Joshua Official Email Address
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EMMANUEL.

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Shannon Cline said...

I would love to read your book. I am considering writing my own. I believe we need to all speak up about the abuse we endured. I was in this ministry 12 years and I have been out now for 12 years. I say I got out because it was like "getting out of a prison" for me. I have had a high recidivism rate as well. I have gone back about 3 times and left even more wounded each time. I pray for all of the abused to start speaking up and have the courage to cone forth against what seems to be an empire. Many are afraid to speak out against this ministry because they fear retaliation, slander and further abuse from this ministry and it's members. With God we will expose the lies, abuse and pain this ministry has caused hundreds if not thousands of people.

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Shannon Cline said...

Oh boy is it common. I can share at least 3 stories. One of my own personal stories. #metoo

Shannon Cline said...

Spoken like a true Victory Outreach abuser. This post is prime example of the abusive manipulating vindictive defensive, dominating, controlling, demeaning, condemning words and behavior of people in this ministry. Its sad because they teach you to be abusive in this ministry, thus we have VO people coming on these boards to abuse those here on a quest for healing and restoration. So sad

Shannon Cline said...

Again someone trying to manipulate us with fear to shut us up and stop us from exposing the truth. It is so crafty to twist scriptures and say not to speak against the "so-called" anointed to stop people from talking about the abuse they endured in this ministry. The hurt is real and we shouldn't be told not to talk about it. We are told to keep secrets and not expose abuse so that VO won't receive bad publicity. Well God knows and God is using people to tell their stories and possibly help others going through similar abuse and problems. These people come on here blindly defending people and making accusations against the abused when they were not in that person's shoes. And by the way why ate these people so defensive? Why would these defensive people come on here trying to get us to shut up about the abuse we have endured. It makes no since unless possibly they ate hiding something themselves or are so brainwashed and manipulated that they think they have to come and abuse us more with their fear tactics. I came to this page to find help and I feel like I just received another round of Victory Outreach abuse!

Shannon Cline said...

I think this is helpful to those of us recovering from spiritual abuse but I just wish they could monitor these posts and delete the VO promoters that come in here trying to intimidate, threaten, abuse, condemn and accuse those if us just trying to find a place of refuge

Lei said...

I finally tried this place a couple of times because of my sister “ONLY” They try to control you from getting up to use the bathroom or leave! I refuse to be controlled like this! I have to use the bathroom often!
No matter what! So I brought my kids with me to VO! The very first thing my kids said was they were mean! Abusive to my kids THE OTHER KIDS GOT SNACKS THEY SAID THEY COULDNT HAVE ANY! In Sunday school class! I never forgot that! I tried once more a couple years later visiting my sister again...same thing! My sons said it is bad! they are prejudice towards white kids! The message to me was all hoopla! Just movements not real! My sister had been helped and was delivered from her drugs and drinking... I believe due to the strict routine only and yes her relationship with god is real so that was her key! I hated the way they used her to work for them! The way they treated her and others! But she just ignored it??? Idk! But I knew the Lord would bring it down one day! I am grateful to her being drug/alcohol free! Jesus is the only answer! VO is a cult! God is in control time to pray for those souls affected in and by them! Amen!

Saved girl said...

Wow this is sad...back biters spiritual abuse? I love God I go to victory outreach...if u don't want to give tithes it's up to you read your word! We give to reach the lost outreaches prositupros drug addicted...lost in general.its really unbelievable that someone would post abuse rediculas! ����

Saved girl said...

😕 wow tramatized? Rediculas!

Saved girl said...

Amen thank you unknown, government aid? Women second class? I'm ol school God made man then woman my husband is the head of household...the devil is at work of decieving...people about this ministry...I'm happy and grateful for victory outreach 😇

Saved girl said...

Wow...I think all these people yelling blogging abuse need serious healing...

Saved girl said...

Thank you ezequiel...lol pray for the lost

Saved girl said...

😕wierd...traveler...you need help really I'm praying for this blog

Saved girl said...

I think that's a bit exaggerated I'm a graduate of the womens home I'm grateful saved, married love my pastors

Rockie Gomez said...
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George Ansley said...

Hello Brethren in the Lord,
May the peace and unity of the holy spirit fall upon you and your entire family as you read this splendid message from the synagogue church of all nations (SCOAN).

Remember that our Lord Jesus Christ is still saying something as He is the deliverer, the healer and the same yesterday today and forever. God has used prophet TB Joshua morning water to work miracles and i know yours will not be a different in Jesus name!!!!

The God of prophet TB Joshua is a wonder working God. God have used the medium of the morning water to heal thousand of diseases, ranging from HIV AIDS, CANCER, BRAIN TURMOIL, TYPE 2 DIABETES, FINANCIAL BREAKTHROUGHS, FREEDOM FROM POVERTY, BUSINESS BREAKTHROUGH ETC. If you need the morning water, and you do not have the time or money to visit the synagogue church of all nations, you can get one by contacting our email.

Send an E-mail directly to: Tbjoshuascoanwater1@yahoo.com
specifying what you need.

The morning water is totally free,

Banter Bulldogge said...

Victory Outreach is so full of shit the director was telling me a bunch of prosperity shit and they are affiliated with Benny Hinn so I would definitely say they are a false Church

Unknown said...

As a believer maybe you should pray for them? Do you love your church more than Christ? Yeshua called ppl to follow no man, but Him no matter the cost. You may not agree about their experience but don't cheapen someone s experience bc of your own opposing experience. Seek your true Love that He may guide you to have empathy and compassion the way your church does for the "wayward", drug addicted etc. Be an example of Christ working through you and in you through your relationship walk with Him, not your love for an idol(church) Many Believers will be fooled, and will most likely will be coming out of Churches in this last days, you may not be, but be apart of His Remnant Bride not a follower of man. Seek His face even in this. Shalom.

Unknown said...

Are you so deluded as to see when ppl are hurt? Maybe you should pray for empathy, the ppl that ate ate tag about it need a voice. Stop being do disspassionate, and devoid of an ear to hear. Your comment could go further if you say I'm sorry for for what you went through, I'll pray for you. Your comments unfortunately are a representative of your church, I'm.assuming your apart of it. I was in the process of looking for a fellowship group but seeing your comments I WILL NOT attend your church. You must be a newer believer, bc your immaturity in Christ shows with your apathetic comments. Have you no heart? Obviously you've never been burned by a group of ppl that call themselves seekers of Christ, but haven't consecrated ALL themselves to Him. Very telling the fruits of "church", not winning anyone to Him but turning them away. How distasteful. What a Shame. Repent of your undermining prideful attitude that seems to come through your many comments.

Unknown said...

Saved girl, maybe try repenting for your attitude. Your comments seem very disrespectful towards these ppl plight. Come down from your high horse for a minute, I'll pray for you that Abba Father deal with your condescending attitude. Get slain in the spirit, that you would look through the eyes of hurting ppl. Human beings are fragile. Thank goodness we have a Savior that heals all things, and shows us our error of hyposcrisy.

Unknown said...

Obviously, this is Your experience. Right?
So maybe try not to discredit others experience. It's ok to not agree or have the same experience. You know? I'm glad your time there is amazing, for others not so.

Unknown said...

I'm taking it you've never experienced spiritual abuse. It's real it happens. Maybe look it up instead of being so incredulous regarding someone s experience. I mean, really, #Ridiculous😕

Unknown said...

I AGREE .. GOD 1st IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE N THAT IS WUT VICTORY OUTREACH DOES .. THOSE WHO TALK BAD ABOUT VICTORY OUTREACH ARE CLUELESS AS TO WHO GOD IS AND WUT HE ASKS OF US SINNERS .. THEM WHO CAN TALK ABOUT A CHURCH THAT TAKES THE UGLY OUT OF A PERSON N MAKES THEM FEEL RENEWED .. GOD THRU THEM .. AMEN

Unknown said...

Hello. I am here looking into how people have been treated by the men's home as a loved one of mine is currently in the program and is in the 30 day black out period where we can't speak to him. If you have any stories on the Victory Men's rehab in ft worth Texas PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reach out to me. I need to gather my facts before I put actions into play.

Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

Don't worry God understands and God will deal with it I just pray He heals ur heart. God Bless you...

Unknown said...

God Bless you brother but God will deal with it....its only a matter of time I pray He heals your wounds.

Unknown said...
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Unknown said...

Sorry I meant to say good work.

Unknown said...

Just pray and tell God you cannot hear Him and He will hear u and answer u and please rest it's hard to hear from God if your worried. God Bless u and i also will pray for u.

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Dianna said...

July 1st 2018 victory outreach in Washington state took my cousin. He had to abandon his home, animals, belongings, phone, and family. He cannot speak with anyone except for his mother. They have taken his social security check. Something needs to be done. They are taking advantage of the disabled.

Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

Can any of you please help me? I have a family member who went to a place called Victory Outreach I believe it was run by a man named Rob wisdom. I need a phone number. Or an address. He had a hard time finding it. But I think it was in Childress Texas.

Unknown said...

If people are transformed and have come to know God personally how can it be a cult? Only the power of God can transform anyone from severe bondage's of addiction, gang etc. I even stayed in the home cause I wanted to see how God transforms ppl, and it is basically the basics, bible reading, meditation, fast- all spiritual. No one can transform any other human being but God, no-one can manipulate and control humanity's mentality unless we ourselves given them the power to do it. How fast are humans quick to forget the good and see the Spirit of the Lord only do what the Spirit of the Lord can do? I have been raised in ministry, not V.O but I have visited many different churches and been under their leadership. The Holy Spirit is present in every body of Christ but not as anointed and present in V.O. Every church is developed by their own by laws and leadership within that city, but the vision is to reach the inner cities. V.O is under the umbrella of Pastor Sonny and the elders, which is the same for every body of Christ..A.O.G, Pentecostal etc all under a umbrella of leadership. Be careful that you do not speak ill of yourself cause you do not understand things in the Spiritual realm.

Eduardo Rivera said...

This is for the comment on July 23rd. That must be one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. Just because someone calls out VO on there nonsense it automatically makes them clueless of who God is? That’s ironic coming from someone who goes to a church that teaches you can lose your salvation. I guess VO teaches and worships a God who is not sovereign and not the Author and FINISHER of our faith. Not once when I was in VO did they ever teach on regeneration, imputed righteousness, substitutionary atonement, propitiation or God’s attributes. They don’t teach on those things because they know it would go against their man centered theology. Would you or anyone in VO even be able to explain how each person of the Trinity contributes in the salvation of an individual? Seriously, try exploring out of your VO bubble sometime. Then maybe you will see how off you guys are.

Eduardo Rivera said...

Get out of your VO bubble for once. A lot of ministries do even more. Try looking up Voice of the Marty’s. They go preach the gospel where it’s illegal to even have a Bible. All VO does is tell people about Sonny and his “vision.”
Tell me one things tho. What ever happened to Vision 1000. Apparently your false teacher of a founder was given a vision by God that there would be 1000 VO churches worldwide by the year 2000. To this date it still hasn’t happened. It’s obvious God didn’t give him that vision.

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Unknown said...

I ran out the door and never look back.Stepford church lol!!!

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Unknown said...

I haven't seen anything regarding how this church offers resources for after the individual is off drugs and alcohol referencing job assistance resources,networking with companies, so these individuals can start getting money saved up to start providing a home for THEMSELVES, like an apartment, saving for a car to get around in or quite possibly live in if need be, so where are these assistance resources for your fellow man????? God should be first!! Then mankind is supposed to stand on his own two God given feet at some point. God helps those who help themselves♥️

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This place is a CULT non welcoming unless you want to be apart of their church. They treat outsiders HORRIBLE. My mother went to their home in Portland, she was charged an arm and a leg cause she had an income where other ladies lived for free cause they didn't have any money. There are no licensed professionals only people who have been addicts and end up staying longer cause they ususally have no where to go. My mom had het ATM card stolen and money stolen while she was there. They worked CRAZY amounts of hours and lived off of FATTENING foods my mom gained almost 100 pounds within the year cause all they had to eat was breads pastas and lots of potatoes. when she got oput of the Portland home she came back to the tri cities and offered to help open the WOmens home there and was treated like shit. I actually called the pastor and his wife and they were complete ASS HOLES
My brother is part of the tri cities church and when he got married at the church his diseased fathers (sister) came and they were not welcoming and actually didn't even want to acknowledge his late father
My brother is actually in the Mens home for non Drug related issues and they have ignored all calls and emails my mom has sent to him
No thabnksgiving call nothing its very sad.


BEWARE this place is a HOLY ROLLER Ex drug and gang members place.

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